Use of 12/1/15 forms for emergency petitions filed

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Judge Bluebond emphasized at the last LACBA subcommittee meeting that
filing the older forms will be rejected.
If you look at the Court's website, you see this notice:

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Please keep us update on this because it is obviously a big issue for us all
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*Subject:* Re: [cdcbaa] Use of 12/1/15 forms for emergency petitions filed
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We got a hold of the ecf helpdesk and were told it is acceptable to use the
old forms for cases filed before 12/1. I have heard worrying stories from
a cdcbaa member about what happens once you actually file the schedules,
but we'll power through.
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Michael Avanesian michael@avanesianlaw.com
[cdcbaa] wrote:
Absolutely mandatory.
Sincerely,
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On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Giovanni Orantes go@gobklaw.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
Is it mandatory to use the new forms for cases filed before 12/1/15 on the
old forms?
The public announcement says only that the forms are effective on 12/1/15
but I cannot find some rule saying whether they are effective for cases
"filed on or after 12/1/15" or what.
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We got a hold of the ecf helpdesk and were told it is acceptable to use the
old forms for cases filed before 12/1. I have heard worrying stories from
a cdcbaa member about what happens once you actually file the schedules,
but we'll power through.
On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Michael Avanesian michael@avanesianlaw.com
[cdcbaa] wrote:
>
>
> Absolutely mandatory.
>
>
> Sincerely,
>
> *Michael Avanesian, Esq. *
> Avanesian Law Firm
> 101 N. Brand Blvd. PH 1920
> Glendale, CA 91203
> Tel: 818.276.2477 | Fax: 818.208.4550
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> On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Giovanni Orantes go@gobklaw.com [cdcbaa]
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Is it mandatory to use the new forms for cases filed before 12/1/15 on
>> the old forms?
>>
>> The public announcement says only that the forms are effective on 12/1/15
>> but I cannot find some rule saying whether they are effective for cases
>> "filed on or after 12/1/15" or what.
>>
>> --
>> Giovanni Orantes, Esq.*
>> Orantes Law Firm, P.C.
>> 3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 2920
>> Los Angeles, CA 90010
>> Tel: (213) 389-4362
>> Fax: (877) 789-5776
>> e-mail: go@gobklaw.com
>> website: www.gobklaw.com
>>
>> **Certified Bankruptcy Specialist, State Bar of California, Board of
>> Legal Specialization*
>> *Board Certified - Business Bankruptcy Law - American Board of
>> Certification
>> *Board Certified - Consumer Bankruptcy Law - American Board of
>> Certification
>> Commercial Litigation
>> Estate Planning
>> Outside General Counsel
>>
>>
>>
>> WE ARE A "DEBT RELIEF AGENCY" AS DEFINED BY FEDERAL LAW.
>>
>> SERVING BAKERSFIELD, LOS ANGELES, ORANGE COUNTY, RIVERSIDE, SAN
>> BERNARDINO AND SANTA BARBARA AND THE WORLD FOR CHAPTER 11 AND 15 CASES.
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>> at (213) 389-4362 or (888) 619-8222.
>>
>>
>
>
Giovanni Orantes, Esq.*
Orantes Law Firm, P.C.
3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 2920
Los Angeles, CA 90010
Tel: (213) 389-4362
Fax: (877) 789-5776
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We got a hold of the ecf helpdesk and were told it is acceptable to use the old forms for cases filed before 12/1. I have heard worrying stories from a cdcbaa member about what happens once you actually file the schedules, but we'll power through.On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Michael Avanesian michael@avanesianlaw.com [cdcbaa] <cdcbaa@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Absolutely mandatory.Avanesian Law Firm101 N. Brand Blvd. PH 1920Glendale, CA 91203Tel: 818.276.2477 | Fax:
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Absolutely mandatory.
Sincerely,
*Michael Avanesian, Esq. *
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Glendale, CA 91203
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On Wed, Dec 2, 2015 at 12:10 PM, Giovanni Orantes go@gobklaw.com [cdcbaa] wrote:
>
>
> Is it mandatory to use the new forms for cases filed before 12/1/15 on the
> old forms?
>
> The public announcement says only that the forms are effective on 12/1/15
> but I cannot find some rule saying whether they are effective for cases
> "filed on or after 12/1/15" or what.
>
> --
> Giovanni Orantes, Esq.*
> Orantes Law Firm, P.C.
> 3435 Wilshire Blvd. Suite 2920
> Los Angeles, CA 90010
> Tel: (213) 389-4362
> Fax: (877) 789-5776
> e-mail: go@gobklaw.com
> website: www.gobklaw.com
>
> **Certified Bankruptcy Specialist, State Bar of California, Board of Legal
> Specialization*
> *Board Certified - Business Bankruptcy Law - American Board of
> Certification
> *Board Certified - Consumer Bankruptcy Law - American Board of
> Certification
> Commercial Litigation
> Estate Planning
> Outside General Counsel
>
>
>
> WE ARE A "DEBT RELIEF AGENCY" AS DEFINED BY FEDERAL LAW.
>
> SERVING BAKERSFIELD, LOS ANGELES, ORANGE COUNTY, RIVERSIDE, SAN BERNARDINO
> AND SANTA BARBARA AND THE WORLD FOR CHAPTER 11 AND 15 CASES.
>
> Note: The information in this e-mail message is not intended to be legal
> advice and should not be relied upon as legal advice unless counsel
> expressly contracted in writing to provide such advice. Furthermore, the
> information contained in this e-mail message is confidential information
> intended only for the use of the individual or entity named. If the reader
> of this message is not the intended recipient or an agent responsible for
> delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any
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> prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please
> immediately notify us by telephone or e-mail and delete the original e-mail
> at (213) 389-4362 or (888) 619-8222.
>
>
>
Absolutely mandatory.Sincerely,
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